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ESPN Staff Writer- Rob Demovsky is an NFL reporter at ESPN and covers the Green Bay Packers. He has covered the Packers since 1997 and joined ESPN in 2013. Demovsky is a two-time Wisconsin Sportswriter of the Year as selected by the NSSA. You can follow him on Twitter at @RobDemovsky.
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ESPN Staff Writer- Kevin Seifert is a staff writer who covers the Minnesota Vikings and the NFL at ESPN. Kevin has covered the NFL for over 20 years, joining ESPN in 2008. He was previously a beat reporter for the Minneapolis Star Tribune and Washington Times. He is a graduate of the University of Virginia. You can follow him via Twitter @SeifertESPN.
Earlier this week, Kevin O'Connell suggested that Sunday's game between the Minnesota Vikings and Green Bay Packers would be a matchup between two "really good teams." O'Connell, the Vikings' coach, was being modest.
More accurately, the contest will be a clash between two of the NFL's best teams.
This is only the second NFC North/Central game since the 1970 NFL merger when two opponents have had at least 11 wins. And it serves as a reminder that either the Packers or Vikings will be one the most qualified third-place teams ever to advance to the playoffs.
The Vikings (13-2) and Packers (11-4) have combined for 24 wins, the second most in the modern history of the franchises. The Vikings remain in position to unseat the Detroit Lions (13-2) for the division title and the No. 1 overall seed in the NFC by winning their final two regular-season games, including their finale against the Lions.
The best the Packers can finish is second in the NFC North, with a No. 5 seed, but they are good enough to rank well ahead of the Vikings in ESPN's Football Power Index (FPI), which has the Packers as the third-best team in the league and the Vikings at No. 7.
The NFL noticed and flexed the game into a national broadcast window last week with a 4:25 p.m. ET kickoff, to which Fox Sports immediately assigned its top crew of Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady and Erin Andrews. The teams will battle 13 weeks after their first matchup of the season, a 31-29 Vikings victory Sept. 29 at Lambeau Field.
"I always say that I love these types of games," Vikings receiver Justin Jefferson said, "the games that you really need, the games that are exciting for everyone to watch. I love those types of games. I love those moments."
To get prepared for Sunday's game at U.S. Bank Stadium, Packers reporter Rob Demovsky and Vikings reporter Kevin Seifert discuss the recent history of the rivalry, size up each team's season and look ahead to Sunday -- and beyond.
Seifert: Rob, I've been covering Packers-Vikings games since 1999. I think your first was in 1973, right? Ha! And I'm struggling to come up with another instance when both teams had built up such strong seasons to create this kind of end-of-season spectacle.
I can remember some big matchups with playoff implications. The 2012 regular-season finale comes to mind, when the Vikings (9-6 at the time) needed to win to qualify for the playoffs, which they did with a 37-34 victory. The Packers (11-4) had already won the division. Then there was the 2004 game, also at the Metrodome, when the Vikings (8-6) could have clinched the NFC North with a win. Instead, the Packers (8-6) won 34-31 and eventually secured the NFC North with a 10-6 record.
But it's really hard to identify an exact historical parallel. If the Packers finish 1-1 or better (they finish with the Chicago Bears), the NFC North will be the third division in NFL history to have a third-place team with a .700 winning percentage or better. The NFL has played at least 16 regular-season games since 1978. Over that period, the only time these teams combined to win more than 24 games was 1998, when the Vikings finished 15-1 and the Packers 11-5.
Anything jump out to you, Rob?
Demovsky: First of all, I've got only two years on you. My first Packers-Vikings games were in 1997.
The 2012 game will always stick out in my mind because that was the day when Adrian Peterson had a chance to break Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record (2,105 yards). All Peterson did was put up 199 yards, but he fell 9 yards short of history.
The 2009 games, when Brett Favre donned a Vikings uniform and played against the Packers twice, were incredible atmospheres and high-stress contests for the Packers, who wanted to show they could win without their longtime superstar.
But let's get with the times. This is probably the most anticipated Packers-Vikings game since coach Matt LaFleur took over in Green Bay in 2019. He won his first three meetings with the Vikings and is 6-5 overall, but the Vikings have won five of the past eight contests in the series, including that Week 4 game this season at Lambeau.
There's a ton of pressure on the Packers going into this game for one reason -- well, actually, five reasons. They haven't beaten any of the NFC's top teams this season. They're a combined 0-5 against the Philadelphia Eagles (12-3), Lions and Vikings. Their best NFC win came over the Los Angeles Rams, but that was in Week 5 when the Rams were depleted by injuries. Probably their second-best victory came over the Houston Texans -- and after Houston managed only two points in their Christmas Day trouncing at the hands of the Baltimore Ravens, even that doesn't look very impressive.
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Seifert: From the outside, the Vikings have drawn comparisons to their 2022 team that won 11 one-score games, finished with a 13-4 record and lost in the wild-card round of the playoffs. This team seems to have stronger bona fides.
The Vikings have the NFL's fifth-highest point differential (plus-120) and have trailed on a league-low 22% of their offensive snaps. Their only losses are by two points to the Lions in Week 7 and then four days later by 10 points to the Rams.
Overall, they have four wins over teams that currently have winning records: the Packers, Houston Texans, Atlanta Falcons and Seattle Seahawks. They are 1-2, however, against opponents with quarterbacks who currently rank in the top 10 of NFL QBR, having lost to the Lions' Jared Goff and the Rams' Matthew Stafford while defeating the Packers' Jordan Love.
Love completed 32 of 54 passes for 389 yards and four touchdowns against them, but he also threw three interceptions.
Rob, the Packers are 9-2 since that game. What's changed for Love and the team?
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Demovsky: It might be easier to list what hasn't changed, because the Packers are a much different team than they were in Week 4.
To begin with, Love is healthy now. Remember, that Vikings game was his first one after suffering a knee injury in the season opener and missing the next two games. With improved health has come improved accuracy and decision-making. He has played five straight games without an interception.
The Vikings battered him the last time, hitting him 10 times, including three sacks. He is much more mobile now and better equipped to escape pressure. The Packers also dropped four passes in that game, according to ESPN Research, though there were more that some analysts may have graded as drops.
A couple weeks after that game, the Packers dumped kicker Brayden Narveson, who missed a pair of field goals against the Vikings. They now have veteran Brandon McManus, who is 43 of 44 on field goals and extra points combined since he joined the team.
And finally, LaFleur has remained as committed as he ever has to the run game, thanks to Josh Jacobs. The Packers rank sixth in the NFL in rushing attempts this season. That said, they couldn't really run the ball against the Vikings, as Jacobs had a season-low nine carries that netted 51 yards. It's worth wondering if they'll have any better luck this time, considering Minnesota ranks second against the run (87.1 YPG).
And speaking of Minnesota's defense, no one blitzes as much as the Vikings (38% blitz rate). But Love has been much better against the blitz of late. In the past six games, he has the best QBR against the blitz (97) after posting the third-lowest QBR against the blitz in the first seven games of the season.
Kevin, how do you think the Vikings will approach the Packers' offense?
Seifert: It's worth noting that the Vikings' 38% blitz rate represents a pretty big range of per game approaches. Defensive coordinator Brian Flores has blitzed on 28% or fewer of dropbacks in four games this season, while there have been five games when the Vikings hit a rate of 44%.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Flores fall on the lower end of that range this time against the Packers. In the only repeat of games this season, Flores blitzed the Bears 23.6% of the time in their first meeting and 36% of the time in the second.
Everyone should also understand that Flores has had the advantage of a higher-performing quarterback, and offense, during the second half of the season. Sam Darnold has thrown 15 touchdowns and only one interception over the past six games, during which the team has ranked No. 7 in the NFL with an average of 29.2 points.
As we wrap this up, something I've been thinking about this week is the difference between the first and second games between these teams in each of the previous two seasons that O'Connell has coached the Vikings and LaFleur has coached the Packers. The Vikings won the first games of the 2022 and 2023 seasons by a combined margin of 30 points and then lost the second games by a combined 47 points. Even in the first game of 2024, the Vikings won the first half 28-7 while the Packers captured the second half 22-3.
None of the previous games had been close, and on the surface, at least, the sequence would suggest the Packers have been pretty good about making adjustments.
Will that pattern continue Sunday? The Packers are certainly playing well enough to do it. A Vikings loss, combined with a Lions win Monday night at the San Francisco 49ers, will eliminate the Vikings' chances of winning the division and give the Packers a chance to move up in the wild-card seedings.
Think it will happen, Rob? And do you like the way I asked you that without committing to a prediction myself?
Demovsky: All I know is the Packers are playing much better than they were back in September and October, and they know they need a signature win heading into the playoffs. When asked how badly they needed one, Love didn't hesitate.
"Badly," he said. "Obviously, we only have one more chance here this week, so definitely like I've talked about before, we've got to be able to go win these games against the really good teams in the league and set ourselves up for the situation we'll be in for the playoffs -- on the road playing good teams. So definitely a good test this week."